silverthunder

One of my friends posted a link to this wank recently, and I'm not sure what exactly I'm thinking about it. Yes, the guy is a nutjob with the typical "if you don't like what I like, you're retarded" mentality. But he did make the post in his own journal rather than on a public forum the way most fandom clowns do. It's easy to justify spamming and posting mocking responses to someone when they make a post in some place public, because the assumption is that if you post in a public community, you are inviting discussion.

Can you justify spamming someone in their own journal when he or she has not posted their rant somewhere that would invite public discussion? I suppose it would be easy to say "well, he/she didn't make the post private, so why not?" But this person has not harmed you in any way with their craziness. They have not lashed out at you on a public forum or community. They are ranting, yes, but in their own space. You are the ones lashing out at this person, rather than the other way around. And doesn't that make you the bad person?

Any thoughts?

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Apparently, it came out somewhere in the wank that he posted his threat to sue in the comments of someone else's LJ as well. When they take it to someone else's turf, it becomes a bit more of a grey area.

Yes, but that's after the spamming and the attacks, right? It doesn't make him right or anything, but it also doesn't make the original attackers any less wrong. The fact that he strikes back (in traditionally wanky fashion) doesn't change the fact that they attacked him first.

I don't condone anything this guy is saying or has done, but I don't think the people who posted all those smart comments and porn in his journal were right, either. And complaining because he deleted comments and banned people is just silly. It's his own journal - he is free to do what he wants. If it were a public community, I can understand finding that uncalled for, but in his own journal...

I don't know. I just think there should be a line drawn somewhere, that's all. This mocking and harassing is getting a little out of hand.

Didn't read any of the rant or comments itself, just the summary on fandom_wank

My thoughts are that they're all immature. In making the public entry a frothing rant rather than a thoughtful commentary, yes, you ARE inviting wank, especially that kind of rant in that kind of fandom.

And if you bite the bait and go on a big attack there instead of simply making your own counter-rant in your own journal, you're not doing much better. To want to rant about things that irritate us is natural. The part so many people overlook is knowing who to rant to, and when you're transcending a purpose of venting annoyance and going into picking a fight. I would say both sides are responsible.

I think the correct course of action on the poster's part would have been to make the OMGYOUALLSUCKHARDCORE rant protected, and if he still wanted to make a public message about it, have a separate entry that was more eloquently worded. And the comment spammers need to realize that while they can justifiably become upset over some of the content in the rant, does it really matter what this one person thinks so much that you have to get vindictively proactive with him?

I also only read the summary on fandom_wank, so we're right on the same page.

I'm definitely not going to argue with you on this one. The original poster's behavior was immature and offensive. I also think it was naive of him to expect that nobody would retaliate, given the state of fandom. I just think it says a lot about the state of fandom that a person can't even say dumb shit on their personal journal any more without being lynched for it.

I don't like the argument of "he/she was asking for it" and I try to avoid using it myself (although I have and do use it occassionally). He may be an immature idiot, but I doubt he was actively looking for trouble - only for people to agree with him and inflate his ego. The fact that he made it a frothing rant rather than a thoughtful commentary and neglected to make the post protected just shows that he's ignorant. The people who spammed him with counter-rants and porn were being deliberately malicious.

I won't condone his behavior, because he acted like an idiot. However, I think that those who came in and attacked him were acting just as much like idiots, regardless of how clever they think they were. And the talk on fandom_wank about how he deleted and screened comments was just ridiculous. In a community, yeah, you don't want to do that or people will be justifiably upset. In your own journal? You can do whatever you like.

That said, I agree with everything in your last paragraph wholeheartedly. It would've saved everyone concerned a lot of trouble.

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