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Aphrael ([personal profile] silverthunder) wrote2004-04-07 01:15 pm

I had to share this

Fuck it. This subject is WAY too controversial.

I can't seem to say what I want to about it, either, without thinking it's come out totally wrong.

Ignore this post. PLEASE.

[identity profile] lycoris.livejournal.com 2004-04-07 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not just the whip. Let's not forget the bondage suit.

Oh my God, why does HP not have men in bondage suits?

God, I miss my Digimon days...

*eyes pile of Digimon fics* If rapefics are evil, I must be the antichrist! Although in mine, they generally got bumped up to around 16. Since 16 is the age of straight conesnt in Britian, I feel it should be the same. HOWEVER - what these people have missed is that in Japan, there is no legal age of consent (I expect there is one that everyone thinks of but it is not actually a passed law). So...actually, not underage at all! MWHAHAHAHAHA!

*creeps away in shame as she realises what she is randomly arguing for*
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[personal profile] herongale 2004-04-07 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, rape is definitely worse the younger the victim is. If you've managed to make it to your adult life without being abused, either sexually or emotionally, you're going to have vastly more coping skills then a child in a similar situation. Also, let's not forget that when children are raped it is often by someone who not only is substantially stronger then them, but who also holds some emotional sway (such as a family member). Topping it all off, when a child is raped they usually end up being repeatedly raped by the same perp because they are aggressively intimidated into not telling.

Sorry, but if you were raped at gunpoint by a man, and then he went around later that night and raped his five-year old niece, I'd think the niece would have suffered the more horrific life-long insult. Wouldn't you agree?

[identity profile] quinconcinnity.livejournal.com 2004-04-07 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Umm..actually, I agree with part of all three statements. I only like non-con if it's extraordinarily well done. I also feel that child-rape is worse than adult-rape because children are less emotionally developed.
They don't recover nearly as well as an adult in the same circumstance would.

I also occasionally get irritated by fics where all the character's are gay. It's unrealistic, and it takes some of the fun out of reading a yaoi fic for me.
Historical AU fics where it's treated as normal and everybody is happily gay really bug me, sometimes. Where is the adversity?
It wasn't like that.
Part of the appeal for me is in the taboo. The struggle against a societal norm! Bucking tradition, and throwing it in the face of those who make the rules!
Oscar Wilde was put in prison for writing a book! A book which hinted so subtly at homosexuality that a modern day reader might not catch it if they didn't know the references.
People were stoned for being gay! They were run out of towns on a rail!
I want a dose of reality in my historical fiction!

Also...it's definately the whip. And the phrase, "Seeing you squirm is so delicious."

Umm...I'm done ranting now. Sorry. *slinks off*

[identity profile] ashna.livejournal.com 2004-04-07 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
*snorts*
Nothing that they say makes any difference.
It's fiction. Not reality. Anybody who writes these fics will most likely shudder at the thought of anything bad happening to somebody in reality.
*raises hand* I've written rape fics. Rape happening in reality? I want to kill the *edit out much swearing and profanity*
Either somebody is exploring a fantasy using the characters (to find MANY people like this outside the fandom community just check out bondage.com. LOTS of rape fantasy floating around there!) . Or they're exploring the phycological issues.
So yeah. That person needs to mind their own buisness. And maybe perhaps not read fics they don't aprove of and find ones they do?

[identity profile] nighteevee.livejournal.com 2004-04-07 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Rape = bad excuse for angst
I think I've told you before, but I really hate bad angst. And nothing screams bad angst like rapefics. Which also means that MY avoidance of rapefics is completely oposite to those people.

Fun thing is, CharlesRocketboy got himself banned from Pokemopolis because he was a male chauvenist moron (if I remember correctly, it was when they realized that he wasn't joking when he said some very, very dumb things about rape. And not things like he says in THAT post). And Lord Archive wrote that fic with Davis and TK getting drunk, drugging Kari, and raping her analy and vaginaly. I guess the deep plot of his was that Davis said that drugs were bad in the end, then *g*

As for the boys being gay or not... I tend to be more upset over the fact that all the GIRLS always end up straight -_-;