Fandom Meme

[silverthunder]

Grabbed from lostnyanko

Comment with a pairing from a fandom I know and I will give you my opinion of it.

Fandoms I Know (I might have forgotten something, too)

+Anima
Angelic Layer
Apocripha/0
Belgariad/Mallorean
Card Captor Sakura
D.N.Angel
Digimon (any season)
Elenium/Tamuli
FAKE
Fruits Basket (anime only)
Fullmetal Alchemist
Gravitation
Gundam Seed
Gundam Wing
Hikaru no Go
Hunter X Hunter
Harry Potter (I'm asking for it putting this one on the list, aren't I?)
Kyou Kara Maou
Lord of the Rings (again, asking for it)
Pokemon
Slayers
Sorcerous Stabber Orphen
Sukisyo
Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles
Weiss Kreuz
X
Yami no Matsuei
Young Wizards

Those are the ones I'd feel comfortable talking about the characters on, anyway. And, again, I might've forgotten some. Take your pick!

Comments

[silverthunder]

:P You think I don't have a life, don't you?

... You'd be right. But that's not the point here!

Takeru x Miyako

I really can't see this pairing. I mean, yes, I suppose it's possible, but it seems like one of those "what the hell, let's throw them together" types. They are friends, and they do care about each other, but let's face it - Takeru and Miyako are both closer to Hikari and Iori than they are to each other. Of course it could work out - just about any pairing on Digimon could - but it's like picking names out of a hat and tossing two people together.

Not that that's necessarily a bad thing - I'm just *saying*.

This aside, their personalities wouldn't be a bad match. Takeru is calm and sensible, and Miyako tends towards erratic. She seems to jump back and forth between rational and irrational quite a bit... Takeru's a little more stable, so he'd probably balance her well. Also, I think he'd have the patience that it would require to deal with the mood swings she tends to display. Miyako strikes me as the sort of person who loves attention, and Takeru would be able to give it to her.

So yes, it could probably work. Why not?

Harry x Draco

I dislike this pairing. Not immensely, and I've been coerced by friends who are fans into reading fanfiction for it - generally OOC - but I don't like it. One, Harry tends towards self-righteous, and a self-righteous person isn't likely to turn around and bang the enemy just because he's feeling horny. While he breaks rules left and right as if he's entitled to, I somehow don't seem him being the kind of person who gets off on a secret affair with the bad guy. I still don't understand the notion of how intense hatred translates to uncontrollable lust and eventually happy-happy love. It just doesn't work for me.

As for Draco, a lot of the same arguments apply to him. You can argue that he's not really evil, he's just a petty bully type and that's it, and you know, it's probably true. But he *doesn't like* Harry. Maybe if they were trapped on a deserted island together with a bunch of other kids and no magic... Well, that's another story. Trying to get someone expelled is not *teasing* them or trying to cover up hidden feelings. It is not equivalent to a boy throwing spitballs at a girl he secretly likes. These two don't like each other. They'd have to somehow start seeing eye-to-eye and slowly become friends before I'd ever think they could possibly be a couple.

And that doesn't seem likely given current events in the series and the fact that only one book is left.

Ken x Aya-chan

This is another pairing that seems to be like "Hey, I haven't paired off THOSE two! Let's do it!" It's even worse than Takeru x Miyako, though, because these two aren't even friends. (unless I've missed something since I haven't bothered to follow Side B or Gluhen) Aya-chan was in a coma! For most of the series, Ken didn't even know she existed. It doesn't make any sense. Again, it's like throwing the names of the WK cast into a hat and picking out two that you're going to toss into a pairing together. Why anyone would be seriously convinced that these two are meant to be is beyond me.

Also, I know next to nothing about Aya-chan's personality, so I have no idea how compatible she'd be with Ken. I suppose if she knows they're Weiss already, he wouldn't have to keep secrets from her, at least... But hell, if that's the only selling point for the couple, why not pair her with Omi? It'd amount to the same thing, really.

[pichi.livejournal.com]

Actually it's because I think (er... thought? XD) you do have a life that I didn't ask about more.

Harry x Draco was a pairing I asked on strictly out of curiosity. I'm in full agreement with you on that one. I've never seen it working either.

The other two pairings are ones I have a lot of liking for, and, yes, they could strike someone as being "wtf" on first glance... I'm not sure whether your verdict is yay or nay on Takeru and Miyako comparing your first sentence on them against your last XD I think along the lines of the latter half of your rambles on them, and looking at the potential for closeness, rather than saying "well, they were both closer to other people in canon so it couldn't ever work." That argument is one of my pet peeves when it comes to pairings ^^; Has anyone lived their entire lives having their best friend the same person that it was at age 11?

I just may wind up writing my own thoughts on Takeru x Miyako now in my LJ XD I guess it'll depend on how lazy I am.

Ken and Aya-chan is another one that I support for its potential rather than its canon interactions. Yes, Aya-chan was in a coma through Kapitel, but she also woke up in the last episode, and where do you think she lived after that? Certainly not in the hospital. Most likely, she started living at Koneko, since we also know that she's running the flower shop. Granted somewhere between the end of Kapitel and the OAVs the boys had moved out of there, but almost all pairings are based on either thinking beyond the end of canon or taking it AU (Daisuke and Ken for example, could never last by sticking to canon, as Ken married Miyako). So, no, we don't ever see them interact, but based on the bits of personality we do get of Aya-chan, she's bright, caring, playful, and has a strong spirit. She's honest with people while still being sensitive to their feelings. All in all, I think it would mean compatibility with a guy that's, at least in Kapitel, warm, a little goofy, emotionally charged, and that highly values honesty. (Really, that's a point against him and Omi, as Omi is not best friends with the truth. He bends and hides it quite a bit. /tangent)

...I probably have more I could say on it all, but my brain just died, so I'm gonna stop there and hope it made sense.

[silverthunder]

I'm not sure whether your verdict is yay or nay on Takeru and Miyako

Nay. I don't like it. What I was saying at the end is that it could happen - there's nothing there to convince me that no, this couple would be a disaster.

"well, they were both closer to other people in canon so it couldn't ever work."

That's not actually what I intended to say. It was more of a comment on the idea of the pairing than the pairing itself. Based on canon, there are more likely pairings. That doesn't mean it wouldn't ever work, just that it's less supported by canon.

Does that make sense?

based on the bits of personality we do get of Aya-chan, she's bright, caring, playful, and has a strong spirit

Personally, I don't think we see enough of her to even really assume this much. The only thing I remember is that flashback of Ran's where Aya's dragging him to the festival. I don't think that's enough of a clip to make any sorts of estimates about her personality.

But that's just me, I guess... Now that I'm looking back on Weiss, I don't care much for a lot of the characterization at all. ^^;;

I'm sorry. Takeru x Miyako I can see, even if I don't like it. I don't see Ken x Aya-chan, because there is really nothing to see. Show me some interaction between them and then we'll talk - as it is, I feel like I'm speculating on whether or not a random extra who got a couple of speaking scenes should hook up with a main character.

[pichi.livejournal.com]

On Takeru x Miyako, gotcha. And I agree, it's less supported by canon than other pairings, but I think their personalities mesh well.

On Aya-chan, we see a little more of her personality in the drama CDs, which was what I was drawing from in describing her more. I can totally understand just not seeing it at all; like I mentioned in another comment of mine, it IS pretty much impossible if you stick within the boundaries of canon. My philosophy, however, is that a great number of pairings are pretty much impossible if you stick within the boundaries of canon. It's also my philosophy that given the right circumstances, almost any pair of characters can form a close and/or romantic relationship. My liking for the pairing has stemmed from AU writings involving them. I guess I got a little defensive about it because it sounded to me like your opinion was that anyone that supported this pairing had put no thought into it. That isn't true. I fully recognize its unlikeliness strictly within the realm of canon, especially if one maintains canon beyond Kapitel-- which is something I don't usually do and not just because I've never seen anything past the OAVs and a couple of drama CD translations.

You're right that starting with the OAVs Ken starts getting rather unstable, getting moreso in Glühen. I'm not certain, but he seems to have stabilized by Side B. Just a side note.

Ken and Aya-chan is purely an AU speculation. There isn't anything in canon to support it in terms of their interacting with each other. I think the only real point I was trying to make was that it wasn't something favored on a thoughtless whim.

[silverthunder]

My philosophy, however, is that a great number of pairings are pretty much impossible if you stick within the boundaries of canon.

My philosophy is generally that anything is possible, but some things are unlikely. If I'm biased for one couple and a less likely one splits them up, I am less likely to be forgiving of the second couple. That's just how it works, and I refuse to apologize for it. ;) Nor should I. It's all a matter of personal preference when you get right down to it.

It's also my philosophy that given the right circumstances, almost any pair of characters can form a close and/or romantic relationship.

Here's where we are in complete agreement. I've never argued against this point, and I never will. Whether or not I think a couple is likely, I will comment on, but not whether it's possible. Anything is possible.

I guess I got a little defensive about it because it sounded to me like your opinion was that anyone that supported this pairing had put no thought into it.

On the contrary - if you're going to write a pairing with such little support in canon, you've probably put a *lot* of thought into it. (assuming you're a good writer, which I know you are) It's much harder to write a couple that had no interaction on the series. You have to invent it from scratch based on your estimation of their personalities and what you *think* the interaction would be like.

I think the only real point I was trying to make was that it wasn't something favored on a thoughtless whim.

Well, I know you and I know you enjoy a variety of pairings, not all of which I like. Generally you can back them up with intelligent points, so I know you're not randomly selecting characters and throwing them together. Sometimes I just can't see it, though.

But disagreements make life interesting, right?

[pichi.livejournal.com]

My philosophy is generally that anything is possible, but some things are unlikely.

Agreed, there are most certainly more likely pairs and less likely pairs. I guess it is kind of weird, because I feel that, overall, I'm far more prone to supporting the more likely pairs. And I do like Ken with Omi quite a bit. So, I'm not really sure how to explain liking the idea of Ken and Aya-chan so much. I really think it's all come down to the experimentation that happened with it in RP and how they played off each other. I've got my own bias now ^^; Even though it rules out my "OTP" for the series, I've never had a problem supporting multiple possibilities for the characters I love when it comes to pairings. And, no, I don't expect you nor think it necessary for you to apologize any more than I consider it necessary for myself. We're just different.

Well, I know you and I know you enjoy a variety of pairings, not all of which I like. Generally you can back them up with intelligent points, so I know you're not randomly selecting characters and throwing them together. Sometimes I just can't see it, though.

Ditto to it all. :) To each her own.

Sorry it took so long to reply u_u A migraine destroyed me yesterday.

[pichi.livejournal.com]

Haha, okay brain revived. There was more I wanted to say on it.

Yes, the point of knowing about Weiß is one thing good about Aya-chan when it comes to pairings. Why not with Omi? Well, I'm torn on this one. I like Omi and Aya-chan too but ultimately it's next to impossible to get to work for one big reason: Ran.

Omi admires Ran. He looks up to him and has a greater investment in Ran's opinions of things. Even if at a point where they're no longer assassins, the fact that they were once is enough for Ran. We all well know his attitude regarding love. He doesn't think they deserve it because of what they do. Take that attitude combined with brotherly protectiveness, and just how much is he going to approve of his baby sister having a relationship with anyone else in Weiß? Not happening. No, no, no, no, no.

Ken has a serious advantage over Omi here. He doesn't care whether Ran approves XD Ken... I think his attitude is that as long as they are in Weiß, then no, they can't get into a serious relationship. We saw that conclusion when he turned down Yuriko. However, I think Ken's learned a valuable lesson from Kase as well, and that's that you have to let go of your past. If he were ever in a point that he weren't in Weiß any longer (again, thinking AU), I think he'd be a lot more willing and open to putting that part of his past behind him and living in the now.

So, yeah, a lot of it is getting far-fetched in terms of canon. It's a pairing I've grown attached to thanks to RP, which has followed similar AU lines. I can understand, certainly, that someone examining it from within the boundaries of canon would find it next to impossible. It pretty much is. I like it anyway ^^;

[silverthunder]

I hardly remember Weiss, but I'm so not going to agree with you on the point of Aya-chan, because I don't remember getting any sense of her at all.

You may be right about Omi - I was just picking someone at random, really.

My opinion was, when I was still into Weiss and able to think of good arguments for it, that it'd be very difficult for the members to go on and have "normal" lives afterwards. If there is an afterwards, which remains questionable. Based on what I've heard about Ken after the end of the series, this seems even more unlikely to me. During the series, I might've said he was the most likely to put it behind him, but I still doubt it.

Just my opinion. I can't remember all the reasons why, and can't really bring myself to care much any more, to be honest. ^^;;

[pichi.livejournal.com]

Sorry for the comment spam >>; I just decided looking back over what I said that I came off a little too argumentative when I didn't mean to, so I wanted to apologize. I was just expressing my own thoughts on them.

[silverthunder]

It's all good. I didn't find it offensive at all, really. :) You'll notice I get argumentative in return. ;)